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Scale of Conflict?

Postby Ced23Ric » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:29 am

How many 'Frames are usual for a planetary campaign?
Are we talking ~50 to ~100 per side, like in BattleTech, or is it more like ...
... 1 'Frame equals 10 soldiers and they come in groups of 20, in packs of 10 groups, etc.?
What does 'Frame warfare feel like?
Specialised oddsights or the primary warmachine?
Do you need a fast transport fleet because you only have a few 'Frames ...
... or do you simple saturate your area-of-conflict with a boatload of 'Frames?
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:46 am

That's kinda hard to answer. Bigger colonies with a population that backs a well-supported, trained, and equipped Free Colonies organization might be hundreds of frames. More dispersed colonies spread out over a number of small towns might be occupied by one UMFL company each — between three and eight frames. If there are ten towns on a colony, that's only 30-80 frames that would be met by another 3-80 Free Colonies frames — let's say about a hundred, total. If a colony is one asteroid, the entire campaign could be settled in one battle of 3-5 frames.

They're inexpensive to produce, but the populations are small where the operate; remember that they're designed to reduce the number of humans involved in any operation by a factor of 5/6.

I'd guess that, if someone were to try to take over Mars, it would be massive. Millions of people live there, it's well-funded, and it's the home of the UMFL (though I can't say which side they'd fight for if the chips were down; they got the chabbed good in their last conflict and might be looking for some payback.)

I can only imagine what it would be like if the fight came to Earth. As you might recall, Earth is the home of many an enormous, international conflict. I'd guess millions of frames would be involved in such a war.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Ced23Ric » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:06 am

Alright, thanks. So I'll simple use the 1:6 equation. :)
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Zero Revenge » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:05 pm

Joshua A.C. Newman wrote:I'd guess that, if someone were to try to take over Mars, it would be massive. Millions of people live there, it's well-funded, and it's the home of the UMFL (though I can't say which side they'd fight for if the chips were down; they got the chabbed good in their last conflict and might be looking for some payback.)


Oh? There's still resentment for the forced terraforming which flooded the North?
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:55 pm

Yeah, it turns out economic oppression doesn't resolve social ills.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Zero Revenge » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:21 pm

I was under an assumption that the terraforming of Mars was a long time ago, and that by now, Mars was united (with Terra and Jupiter as the founding planets of the SU). I stand corrected.

Very interesting.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:47 pm

Yeah. It's united. The North will Rise Again.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Wadmaasi » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:48 pm

Joshua A.C. Newman wrote:The North Sea will Rise Again.

There. Fixed that for ya.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:47 pm

Actually, I want to have a submarine Republican company at some point. Have the entire campaign take place on parts of Mars with a bunch happening at the north polar region.
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Zero Revenge » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:23 pm

Ooooh man, a naval battle? (Maybe even Underwater battles?) Sweet deal!
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby randolph » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:02 am

Speaking of submarine companies and underwater battles, have you guys seen this guy on the right?
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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Zero Revenge » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:05 am

randolph wrote:Speaking of submarine companies and underwater battles, have you guys seen this guy on the right?


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Re: Scale of Conflict?

Postby Soren » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:19 am

Joshua A.C. Newman wrote:I'd guess that, if someone were to try to take over Mars, it would be massive. Millions of people live there, it's well-funded, and it's the home of the UMFL (though I can't say which side they'd fight for if the chips were down; they got the chabbed good in their last conflict and might be looking for some payback.)


The Legion, its somewhat politically-fraught inspiration aside, is organized along regimental rather than continental lines and prides itself on standing apart from Union politics. Commanding the loyalty of the entire Legion is historically unlikely (although a few figures could reasonably try, including Colonel Dolgov of the Crimson Phalanx), and leaves the thorny problem of the 65% or so of the Legion that isn't Martian. Loyalty is primarily to your regiment and your mission, like Scottish Borderers or Gurkhas.
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