ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/29/15)

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ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/29/15)

Postby HyveMynd » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:21 am

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ImageORT-14 Cumulus "Whitefish" Cruiser by HyveMynd, on Flickr

A variation of the Nimbus hull, the ORT-14 Cumulus is more heavily armed and armored than it's destroyer counterpart. The bulky armor plating, housing either weapon systems or frame launch/maintenance bays, has led to its nickname of "whitefish" among crews.

Eh, I can't think of any more fiction for this ship's description. It is built from the Nimbus (no, I haven't gotten sick of tinkering with that ship) but it has the rounded plates on the sides and has a 1x2 slope for the prow. The dorsal-mounted cannon looks too big, but I couldn't figure out how to get it any smaller. Maybe just a headlight brick on a 1x1 round plate with a 1x1 round brick for the barrel.

In game terms, this is still a frigate, just like the OST-07 Nimbus, but the Cumulus has one system devoted to defense (where the Nimbus probably doesn't have any).
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby FragsturBait » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:32 am

I can't tell you enough what an awesome, simple, versatile little design this is. I don't want to resort to superlatives but I've been tinkering with my version for like a week now. ( I should really post some pics, sorry) Is there anything as variable as a chub in IO yet? Pardon the gushing praise.

Do you have any spare 1x2 technic bricks? You can put those half pins in the bottom, put some cheese wedges on the top, and click the hole onto that jumper plate. If you want to fill in the top a 1x1 round or another jumper works well. I can post pics of what I'm talking about if you're having trouble seeing it.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby Cake » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:27 am

Looks good, though I agree the turret is far larger than it probably needs to be. The adjustable antenna that was on the original ORT-07 would probably work as a turret... I've had a thought - need to break out the digital LEGO... picture: :)

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Sadly my initial thought produced a turret about twice the size as your original, so I tried this one on the ORT-07A - it's a bit smaller, not as posable, and the binoculars interfere a bit with anything directly underneath them

I've also tried the somewhat 'classic' turret style on the Nimbus, which looks OK (though I have mounted it as a fixed emplacement):
ImageORT-07A Turret prototype 2 by thamilus, on Flickr

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The turret would work brilliantly on a ship that was two bricks wider... I may be playing with LEGO a lot tonight (actually, probably no more than normal :) )
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby HyveMynd » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:01 pm

ORT-15 Cumulus 'Humpback' Carrier
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The main strength of the Cumulus cruiser is its modular hull compartments. This allows the ship to be configured in a number of ways to fulfil a number of battlefield roles. The ORT-15 has "fold out" launch catapults in it's rear compartments, and frame maintenance/hangars in the front. Additional point defence weapons and communications systems are housed in the "hump" above the launch bays, leading to the carrier's nickname.

This was just an experiment with brackets, leading to a "fold out" compartment. I don't have any of those 1x2 sloping grill tiles that make such great launch bays, and so had to do something else. With both the port and starboard launch bay doors open, there isn't much internal space (and having the front and rear of only a single side open looked weird), so I imagine that the frame companies are housed/maintained in the front ot the ship, then move to the rear for launch. They strap into their catapults before the doors open, then get launched by the mechanisms housed in the "floor" of the rear compartment.

Looking at it now, I probably should have put a 1x2 white tile across the top of the launch bay, rather than a second 1x2 grill tile.

Here it is with the launch bay doors open.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby HyveMynd » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:10 pm

FragsturBait wrote:I can't tell you enough what an awesome, simple, versatile little design this is. I don't want to resort to superlatives but I've been tinkering with my version for like a week now. ( I should really post some pics, sorry) Is there anything as variable as a chub in IO yet? Pardon the gushing praise.

Do you have any spare 1x2 technic bricks? You can put those half pins in the bottom, put some cheese wedges on the top, and click the hole onto that jumper plate. If you want to fill in the top a 1x1 round or another jumper works well. I can post pics of what I'm talking about if you're having trouble seeing it.

Thanks FragsturBait, and yes! Lets see some pics!

I tried a turret made from a 1x2 technic brick with half pins in the bottom and it still looked too big. I then tried a 1x1 technic brick with a half pin barrel and it still felt out of scale. I think it's the height of the brick making the weapon too tall.

The 1x2 technic brick or clip tile turret looks correctly sized when mounted on the side of the ship in place of the rear 2x2 curve. I'm not sure why that is, but perhaps it's because the side mounts look more substantial. Like they could hold a larger cannon.

Ultimately I went with the "binocular turret" like Cake did on his Nimbus build above.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby noofy » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:42 pm

These are so awesome Chris! I'm gonna build some in black and trans green :)
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby HyveMynd » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:54 pm

Thanks noofy. Black and trans green sounds absolutely sinister. Make sure to post some pics when you're bricked them up. :)
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser

Postby HyveMynd » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:33 pm

ORT-16 Cumulus CCE (Cruiser Escort)
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ImageORT-16 Cumulus CCE (Cruiser Escort) by HyveMynd, on Flickr

As the frame company carried by the ORT-15 'Humpback' can only engage similar sized targets, the ship has no long range armaments and is vulnerable to enemy fire. The ORT-16 Cumulus CCE makes up for this by replacing the rear hull compartments of the standard Cumulus design with four heavy cannons. Designed to escort other ships into combat, the ORT-16 ensures the carriers get their frame companies launched.

Ermph. It is surprisingly hard to write fluff for these ships sometimes, even when you have a clear combat role in mind when designing them. Frigates in _Mobile Frame Zero: Intercept Orbit_ can only carry a maximum of three systems. To be internally consistent I've decided that cruisers, being bigger than destroyers, have to carry at least one defense system. The ORT-15 'Humpback' has a frame catapult as the second system, and either a point defense weapon or a second catapult as the third system (I'm still deciding which).

The point is, the Humpback carrier has very few weapons. So I wanted to make some kind of escort gun ship that could protect it; that's the ORT-15 Cumulus CCE. The weapons are the same as the ones on the ORT-14 Cumulus, just mounted on the sides. The cannons don't look over-sized there, maybe because they're mounted on a larger area. They don't have any vertical movement, but that's OK.

The three systems here are probably 1x Defense (otherwise it's not a cruiser), 1x Assault range weapon, and 1x Point Defense range weapon (the little turret on top). I still haven't played yet, so I don't know how useful PD weapons are yet. I feel like it needs something to keep enemy frame companies at bay though.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/17/15)

Postby Blorf » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:48 am

These continue to be high-quality. I hope you'll post a full fleet shot when you're done.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/17/15)

Postby HyveMynd » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Blorf wrote:These continue to be high-quality. I hope you'll post a full fleet shot when you're done.

Thanks Blorf. Unfortunately, the secret behind all these ships is that I have to break them down when I want to build a new version. I need to put in a BrickLink order for more bits before I can attempt a fleet shot.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/17/15)

Postby HyveMynd » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:11 am

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ORT-17 Cumulus CCG (Torpedo Boat)
Another variation of the Cumulus cruiser, the ORT-17 replaces the rear hull panels with multiple range guided missile launchers.

A short description this time. As shown, I think this ship has 1x defense system (or it wouldn't be a cruiser), 1x point defense weapon system (the little dorsal turret), and 1x support range weapon. That does mean enemy ships can slip within its missile range (since ranges are exclusive in MF0), so, just like the Humpback Carrier, this ship needs an escort for protection.

I could drop the point defense weapon, add a third row of missiles, and give the ship a split support/assault range weapon system. That means it would roll 3 dice when attacking at support range and a single die at assault range. It wouldn't be able to do anything to targets at point defense range, though I'm wondering how often ships get that close.
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Re: ORT-14 Cumulus Cruiser (Update 4/20/15)

Postby HyveMynd » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:51 pm

ORT-17X Cumulus CCG (Torpedo Boat)
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An update of the ORT-17], the ORT-17X carries guided missiles with fusion-tipped warheads.

Another short description. I purchased two City race cars and the Legends of Chima Wolf Legend Beast from the local electronics store. They were on sale, and I couldn't help myself. Leave me alone. They were calculated purchases, as all three sets gave me a lot more white slopes and curves to use in my "NASA Industrial" fleet. They also gave me those trans red 1x1 round tiles for "advanced" missile warheads.

Despite it having an antenna, this cruiser has a load out of 1x defence system and 2x support range weapons (the guided missiles). It can't do anything to a target that gets within assault range, but it can hammer anything outside of that range with a bunch of red dice.
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