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FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:11 am
by milt69466
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FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix by milt69466, on Flickr
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FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix by milt69466, on Flickr
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FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix by milt69466, on Flickr
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size comparison by milt69466, on Flickr
FX-c012 Blaze phoenix
armed with
-top mounted "Hail mary" missile dispenser
-frame seeking missiles
-nose mounted machine gun

This Is me trying to build a modern sized fighter in 7p scale. I noticed there are very few fighters in the forums of this size. call it "trying somthing new"

I'm not extremely happy about the nose.
C and C welcome of course

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:02 am
by NimbusAConflict
That is a sweet ride, no matter how you slice it.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:06 am
by Dukayn
The shaping is really nice. It might just be perception but it seems a bit big. My calculations say the wingspan of an F-18 sized plane should be about 12 bricks across - what's this come in at?

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:21 am
by milt69466
the wingspan on this thing is 28 studs long.

however the fuselage is 23 studs long.
so the wings are a bit long I guess.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:00 am
by Dukayn
Hmm, what's the ratio of studs:bricks?

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:42 am
by Mantisking
Dukayn wrote:The shaping is really nice. It might just be perception but it seems a bit big. My calculations say the wingspan of an F-18 sized plane should be about 12 bricks across - what's this come in at?

I think a better comparison would be a F-14 -- since it looks like one to me. That has an (extended) wingspan of 64 feet, which is 768 inches. In 7P scale 1 plate equals 10.28 inches. So, 768" = 74.7 plates -- let's round up to 75 -- which equals 25 bricks long. It's 62', 9" long, which is 753". So, it's 73.25 plates long, rounded to 73, which is 24 bricks, 1 plate long.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:33 am
by milt69466
Ok, I measured the wingspan in bricks and it is almost exactly 25 bricks long, not far from the tomcat I see.
Interesting

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:38 am
by MittenNinja
Speaking of the tomcat, this would look really sweet with a swept wing design. Shouldn't be too hard to implement either, just get some rotating 2x2s in there.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:46 am
by Foghammer
The scale looks as close to perfect as I can imagine. Very nice. The F-14 is my all-time favorite fighter, and I can see some resemblance here.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:07 pm
by Thaddeus
Oh man. Everything about this is totally awesome.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:52 pm
by TheOmnicide
MittenNinja wrote:Speaking of the tomcat, this would look really sweet with a swept wing design. Shouldn't be too hard to implement either, just get some rotating 2x2s in there.
I agree completely. For how the wings looked, I thought they were already able to be swept back as it was.

On another note, it feels so weird that a fighter would look so huge compared to a mobile frame. It makes sense, though, with certain chub cockpits and all.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:00 pm
by MittenNinja
TheOmnicide wrote:I agree completely. For how the wings looked, I thought they were already able to be swept back as it was.

On another note, it feels so weird that a fighter would look so huge compared to a mobile frame. It makes sense, though, with certain chub cockpits and all.


I think a lot of people forget (or don't realize) that mobile frames are not very large in the realm of mecha. I mean those frame are only probably a little taller than a 4 door sedan on its end. A true tank would be much larger, as well as any fighter aircraft, transport vehicles, etc. Heck, a semi should be able to hold 2-3 chubs in its trailer.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:04 pm
by NimbusAConflict
MittenNinja wrote:
TheOmnicide wrote:I agree completely. For how the wings looked, I thought they were already able to be swept back as it was.

On another note, it feels so weird that a fighter would look so huge compared to a mobile frame. It makes sense, though, with certain chub cockpits and all.


I think a lot of people forget (or don't realize) that mobile frames are not very large in the realm of mecha. I mean those frame are only probably a little taller than a 4 door sedan on its end. A true tank would be much larger, as well as any fighter aircraft, transport vehicles, etc. Heck, a semi should be able to hold 2-3 chubs in its trailer.


Sudden Idea for a terrain/station...

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:07 pm
by TheOmnicide
MittenNinja wrote:I think a lot of people forget (or don't realize) that mobile frames are not very large in the realm of mecha. I mean those frame are only probably a little taller than a 4 door sedan on its end. A true tank would be much larger, as well as any fighter aircraft, transport vehicles, etc. Heck, a semi should be able to hold 2-3 chubs in its trailer.
Definitely. There just aren't a whole lot of scenarios where mechs are smaller than, say 50 ft tall. It's easy to forget sometimes until you put them next to something, the fighter in this case, and then you realize that these things really aren't hulks.

Not that any of it is bad, it was just a moronic "Eureka!" moment.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:07 pm
by aimforthetop
I love this, and it's a great scale/size. It's also subtly futuristic in a great way- the landing gear, colors, and general shape make it easy to imagine in an airport alongside current-day aircraft but it still has those wings that suggest a future advanced mobility.

It now makes me want to build an aircraft of similar configuration but with a larger fuselage cabin- a small private-type liner would make a good Station for storyline purposes.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:47 pm
by Dukayn
Yeah an F-14 makes more sense size-wise. And I agree, the frames aren't as big as we think they are sometimes. I still think one fitting inside a semi-trailer crate is a bit off; a Chub stands at about 7.5 metres tall - which is about 2 storeys high - if I calculate it correctly, and I have yet to see a truck which can carry a 2-storey building in it's crate.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:06 pm
by MittenNinja
Well, a standard semi trailer is 13.6 feet tall, which comes to roughly 4.5 meters. That's definitely tall enough to fit a chub that was either crouched or sitting. There are also larger trailers but they require special permits, so a military semi that carries frames is totally possible too.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:52 pm
by milt69466
I now anounce the Fx-c014 Blaze Phoenix (model number change) with swept wings!
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FX-c014 Blaze phoenix swept wings by milt69466, on Flickr
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FX-c014 Blaze phoenix swept wings by milt69466, on Flickr
MittenNinja was right, this took me about 5 minutes to change. however the new wings are longer then before.

missiles also are removed untill I find abetter place to mount them.

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:25 pm
by MittenNinja
Lookin good sir!

Re: FX-c012 Blaze Phoenix Fighter

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:30 pm
by LowestFormOfWit
I like the shaping until it gets to the rear. It just seems so bulky and fat for a fighter plane. That engine is gigantourmous.